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mapontosevenths • today at 12:15 AM • 2 replies • view on HN

> The amount of newsroom jobs fell 60% between 2008 and 2020. [0]

That was a scary number so I Googled it. You should always check scary numbers. It's misleading.

It's true that newspaper newsroom jobs fell 57% (from roughly 71,000 to 31,000 jobs) over that period. However, newsroom employment across all mediums fell by only 26% (from 114,000 to 85,000).

A lot of hose jobs went digital, they didn't just disappear.

[0] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/13/u-s-newsr...


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jacobolus • today at 1:29 AM

Your page has:

> Newspaper newsroom employment fell 57% between 2008 and 2020, from roughly 71,000 jobs to about 31,000. At the same time, the number of digital-native newsroom employees rose 144%, from 7,400 workers in 2008 to about 18,000 in 2020.

So, if we group digital publications with newspapers we are going from 78k to about 49k jobs, a drop of almost 40%. It would be interesting to see a finer grained breakdown by type of jobs. I would speculate that there was probably an even bigger decline in the number of journalists per se.

The rest of the numbers you are quoting are mostly broadcast TV, with some radio and cable TV folks thrown in. My impression is that quite few of those jobs / stories are serious journalism.

hedora • today at 2:02 AM

It's down 81% since 2002:

https://www.rebuildlocalnews.org/new-local-journalist-index-...

(Measured as local journalist equivalent per 100,000 people.)