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Neikius • yesterday at 8:40 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

Outlook.com is also rejecting mail based on blocklists that are not public and you essentialy cannot get yourself out. My VPS provider is pretty much entirely blocked and their regular blocklist process says we are golden so nothing to unblock.

Outlook.com and similar are an anathema to email. This is why they tell you not to run a mail server .

On the other hand rejecting domains without dmarc is fine. Just not happy it is silent.


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Ungh • yesterday at 8:56 PM

outlook.com and O365 are horrible to deliver to. We regularly get issues where we sent an email it was accepted by O365 but was never delivered to the mailbox. We have one person working at least half the time on resolving stuff like that. And that's from a respectably maintained SES egress with good reputation, DMARC, DKIM configured.

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functionmouse • yesterday at 9:33 PM

> Outlook.com and similar are an anathema to email. This is why they tell you not to run a mail server .

It turns out that whoever has the most power is the most powerful. This is why distributed/decentralized systems cannot singlehandedly free us from tyranny, and why I find people who spend all their time preaching decentralized systems to be quite silly. We don't need better systems (well maybe we do but,,,), we need better education and awareness of how billionaires manipulate us; this goes beyond software.

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generalizations • yesterday at 10:19 PM

Just put codex in a continuous goal loop to keep you off the blacklists...give it whatever email / creds it needs to make the appropriate requests and make the needed changes (ofc tell it the guardrails it should follow).

Selfhosted email is likely easier now than it ever was before.

system2 • yesterday at 8:55 PM

Using self hosted email service is a big mistake in 2026.

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gatlin • yesterday at 9:14 PM

I was viciously mean in my communication with the Outlook team when they said they “couldn’t” remove me from the blocklist. I pointed out that, as the operator of a perfectly compliant secure server their inability to deliver my mail is a technical failure on their end and one which I will be contacting their supervisor about and they somehow managed to scrabble together the heroic ability to delete my row from a table. Never back down from these bastards.

lakeviewterrace • yesterday at 11:57 PM

Maybe don't self-host mail on a shitty $1/month VPS where 99% of the tenants are spammer scum?

This is not Microsoft's fault. The building's on fire and they're locking out the arsonists.

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