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skew-aberration • today at 8:36 AM • 1 reply • view on HN

I have seen most revenue projections are on the order of 2-3x, but I suspect about 4-5x.

IMHO profitability will be worse though. They will contain to take on more and more investments - training, R&D, and 'sales and marketing' for enterprise share. They will face more competition than ever before. The range and types of models will continue to diversify, with real-time models for robotics and computer use paving the way for new entrants.

The investor confidence to back this doubling down will be spurred by rapid progress, panic deregulation while old-guard corporate democrats still hold power in the US, and much stricter sanctions against Chinese competitors, their models, and their eventual domestic hardware. The tech world will look a lot more factional by that point, with pseudo mergers & acquisitions amongst the big companies beginning, unabated by a toothless FTC. Anthropic will probably get closer to Amazon, and we could see big moves amongst Meta, Microsoft, and/or Google too.

Ultimately, Anthropic and OpenAI will maintain their market leading positions through at least 2028/2029 but only after a protracted period of significant equity dilution due to the expensive acquisitions and large outside investments which will be necessary in these market conditions.

Chinese hardware and models will look like a serious threat by the end of 2027 but will be largely locked out of US/Western markets. At the point the equation will have changed drastically - credit issues in the West led by mortgage security collapses will shape the investment environment and 2028 election, and rapid developments in physical technology and manufacturing will take the spotlight away from intelligence itself.


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aurareturn • today at 8:39 AM

If 5x, then they'll end Q3 2027 with about $350B annualized revenue.

Looking at their 2027 compute commitments, it looks like around $72B total.

So I don't understand where this "burning cash" claim comes from by a few people here.

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