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chiph • today at 12:40 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

Overpopulation was a big topic in the early 1970's, with competing dire predictions.

If you haven't watched it, Soylent Green with Edward G Robinson and Charlton Heston is an illustration of this (no spoilers please!) It was based on Harry Harrison's novel Make Room, Make Room where population growth was out of control, and human life was worth so little that the police used mechanical scoops to clear rioters from the streets.

And then on the other side, we have Blade Runner where Earth's population is declining because of off-world colonization and replicants are created for labor.


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usefulcat • today at 5:16 PM

> Blade Runner where Earth's population is declining because of off-world colonization and replicants are created for labor

The Expanse series (James SA Corey) makes a rather different prediction about the effects of plentiful (or at least mostly sufficient) food coupled with a decreased need for human labor.

In that story, in the future there are far more people than jobs (only on Earth--not so for off-world settlements). As a result, most Earthers are effectively on welfare, including many people who want to have a job. With little or nothing else to do, they start having more children, which results in the population of Earth increasing to ~30 billion.

fullstop • today at 2:59 PM

> If you haven't watched it, Soylent Green with Edward G Robinson and Charlton Heston is an illustration of this (no spoilers please!)

If you wish to avoid spoilers, do not watch the trailer. I remember talking to my kids about the movie and then watching the trailer, and it gives away pretty much 100% of the movie.

oh_no • today at 1:02 PM

Blade Runner is a very interesting exception, while depopulation has become common in speculative fiction these days having it as part of something from the 80s was pretty rare. I don't know when the overpopulation/depopulation switch flipped in fiction, but I think it was pretty recently.

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wtch98 • today at 1:42 PM

Logans Run too

I recently read Niven's ringworld (1970). All the intelligent species had overpopulation problems, dealing with it in different ways. It was just a given that it was an inevitable consequence of an advanced species.

It was really jarring to consider it. I'm old enough to remember the (now recognised as disastrous) one child policy of China but even so the way it was presented as "of course there have to be population controls" actually took me out of the narrative.

HardCodedBias • today at 3:00 PM

These "academics" willingly distorted the issue by treating humanity as one lump.

The West was in no way contributing to "overpopulation". It was other areas of the globe that were causing problems.