alt Hacker News>Vendor financing is already a sign of an unhealthy market. When widespread, almost always. If the only easy way you can borrow enough to buy a thing is from the vendor, that’s bad. And if vendor financing is an increasing, not decreasing, proportion of the finance in a market, that’s worse.
How much % of car loans are vendor financed?
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I don’t know, because I am in the UK and I don’t know exactly what definition of vendor finance you’re working with.
For example, here in the UK, that is extremely regulated, and you’re usually not buying with the dealer’s money, or the dealer chain’s money. Sometimes you are buying with the manufacturer’s money (through a regulated subsidiary finance company or joint venture) but most of the time you’re simply buying with money from a regulated finance company, from which the dealer is getting an introducer’s fee (and for which they must agree to be regulated).
(I am not a driver and have no car loans but I am reasonably familiar with the business model from previous client business)
It is my understanding that Nvidia is pretty directly using their own money for this: there is a criticism that they are essentially “selling their balance sheet as a service”, and that their total exposure is about $200 billion.
Nvidia’s loans are not, in that sense, particularly comparable to even the loosest definition of auto loans. Not least because there’s no competition for the products.
This is all putting aside how much money Jensen Huang has persuaded others to loan. Perhaps that side of things won’t go away; I think we might see him carrying on that function in some future capacity. But it will almost inevitably be at a much smaller scale, because the market is significantly less enthusiastic about lending more money.
it's also an issue for cat companies. they get a double whammy during economic downturn because demand drops and supply rises (due to repossessed data flooding the market)
Almost none. Dealerships will arrange financing for you, but the actual financing comes from a third party financial institution. The dealership walks away from the deal with the full cash value of the sale; and maybe a kickback from the bank. The concerning thing with vendor financing is that the vendor is supposed to be in the widget business, not the financing business. If they are getting into the financing bussiness, that is generally a sign that the professional financers don't want to get involved; which is not a good sign.