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boodleboodle • today at 2:34 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

Whats the best model i should be runnning with two dgxs? Is there a reason they chose glm and not deepseek


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gpugreg • today at 2:46 PM

    > Is there a reason they chose glm and not deepseek
GLM-5.3's architecture (same as GLM-5.2) is simpler and it came out earlier.

Hybrid attention and Manifold-Constrained Hyper-Connections only arrived with GLM-5.3-Flash.

Also, NVIDIA acquired HuggingFace, who used GLM-5.2 for their forensic analysis when they got hacked, so I presume that they have more familiarity with that model.

And DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash is more memory-efficient, so it'd sell fewer GPUs.

frogblast • today at 2:57 PM

DeepSeek’s claim to fame is massively shrinking the per-user memory footprint, enabling many more concurrent users in your fixed hardware footprint. Having more concurrent users leads to much higher overall throughput on that same hardware. That’s why DS is so cheap to host.

See table 2 in this article to see the tradeoffs of overall throughput vs per user latency as an example.

Deepseek would let you host higher concurrency than GLM.

Presumably that compression doesn’t come for free on the quality side. (This is totally speculative on my part. I haven’t personally used DS, and I don’t particularly feel benchmarks correlate well to my own experiences)

If you’ve got a small enough user count, perhaps there are tradeoffs in DeepSeek that are not buying you anything.

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