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fritzo • today at 4:57 AM • 2 replies • view on HN

Can some explain why you prefer "freedom from surveillance" over "convicting armed robbers"? Doesn't surveillance just keep honest people honest?


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taormina • today at 5:14 AM

No. Any surveillance is going to have a chilling effect on the community. Why hang out at the local park with this monstrosity out of 1984 is watching you? Why not go literally anywhere else?

Which armed robbers were caught with this technology that were uncatchable before now? Seriously. Ruining all of privacy for everyone does not fix this. This is the same old “if you have nothing to hide” again and again and again and it’s been categorically wrong for hundreds of years. Nothing has changed. Expect the means.

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quaffcode • today at 6:18 AM

I am OK with the surveillance if police get a warrant signed by a judge. That keeps people honest and accountable, requires them to enumerate suspicion of a crime.

I am not OK with giving everyone who works for the government complete knowledge of my associations and wherabouts at all times.