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Arubis • today at 4:04 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

The most important part of this is toward the end, and whether you consider it a limitation or a feature is a matter of perspective: the modern commercial web does not play nice with this. So static HTML and blogs yes, Reddit and most anything commercial no.

You can actually get other close-to-browser experiences with stuff like xwidget and embedded WebKit (https://emacsdocs.org/docs/emacs/Embedded-WebKit-Widgets) but generally it’s not worth the fight for commercial sites these days; everything is vibed and only tested against Chrome, so if you’re lucky they’ll load in other Chromium browsers and _maybe_ Firefox.


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graemep • today at 6:06 PM

I use Firefox and cannot remember the last time I had to switch to Chrome. Most site work with JS off too (especially if you use reader view).

Quite a lot of sites work well with other browser engines too. I have tried PaleMoon, Netsurf. Users of Apple mobile devices seem to be fine with Safari.

Really light or unusual browsers might be a problem. Dillo, for example (its very fast though).

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kkylin • today at 5:08 PM

I think that's absolutely right: whether this works or not depends on what you do.

I tried xwidget-webkit as main browser briefly, but very quickly gave up. When a collaborator sends me a Google Doc, for example, I really still need a browser to work on it. I still use xwidget-webkit daily -- it's a great PDF viewer, and really nice to be able to have Jupyter notebooks open side by side with code buffers -- but for most tasks involving the web I'll switch to a browser.

shevy-java • today at 9:06 PM

> Reddit and most anything commercial no.

Not long ago reddit killed old.reddit.com effectively by forcing log ins to it. That totally defeated the point of it so I stopped using reddit. I also no longer read it since the platform is so censorship-heavy.