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close04 • today at 4:16 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

Wait until those big corporations start using LLMs to learn how to lock things down even further, or implement checks that disable your car when it detects alterations to the software “for safety reasons”, or go after drivers who do these things for loss of revenue, etc. A ‘94 Jeep will be fair game but a new car might not be.


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dns_snek • today at 4:25 PM

They've been doing that for a decade. I think overall the balance will shift in our favor but Big AI labs will do everything they can to try and stop us.

Claude is quick to refuse to help with reverse engineering and I suspect it's only going to get worse over time.

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damowangcy • today at 5:15 PM

>big corporations start using LLMs to learn how to lock things down even further

Why would they? They just need to fund lobbyist to make it illegal for any AI to reverse engineer anything copyrighted or with IP.

Sure, you can use open source AI to do it but not everyone will/can do it.

So, they don't need to ban everyone, they just need to make sure the final code isn't available freely on GitHub. That would minimize the damage, it's not a perfect solution but more than enough to protect the company.

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SV_BubbleTime • today at 4:22 PM

New cars already have it.

Lockstep processors, hardware security modules with immutable unreadable keys, and PKI keys that the mfg holds the private for that can only be accessed on their online services.

It’s locked down now and this started in 2018 or so. It’s just worse now.

To automotive, there is really still no right to repair. They get around it by selling “3 day passes” to their service, but with their hardware and at their prices.

They’re all moving the Tesla system of more centralized brain systems which will be even more protected.

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CamperBob2 • today at 5:07 PM

They are now required to do just that, if they want to sell to the EU market. When you hear the term "cybersecurity," the real subject is the protection of revenue streams from attack by end users.

DANmode • today at 8:04 PM

Volkswagen shipped the same encryption key to the keys of something absurd like 100M vehicles.

Don’t hold your breath.