logoalt Hacker News

rustcleaner • today at 10:15 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

It's because carbon reduction has not been disconnected from material impoverishment. We need more stuff moving; we need more housing, we need more transport, we need more food, we need more energy, we need more children. Carbon reduction's story is one of denying/reducing these things in the name of saving planet earth. The answer needs to be doing both: reducing carbon and making more houses and food and energy and babies. Nobody really wants to be DINK pod-people who have little optionality in life activities, and that's what climate change warriors are selling them.


Replies

Loquebantur • today at 10:29 PM

The idea of "unbounded capitalism", leading to incessant growth, while painting reductions as "impoverishment", is a capital error.

Reality doesn't allow for any such thing and wishing for it doesn't make it so.

Consequently, ignoring that reality will see you running into a wall head-on. With wildly devastating consequences: El Niño is just one immediate symptom, look at the AMOC. It collapsing will see about 70% or more of Earth's population wiped out. Along with the corresponding capacity for crop growth.

What you need to do is actually preventing foreseeable calamities, not complaining about people pointing you at them.

lotsofpulp • today at 10:21 PM

>that's what climate change warriors are selling them.

Interesting way to frame the constraints of reality.

➕ show 1 reply