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piva0010/11/2024

Can we think on the next step then? A nuclear nation invades and annexes territories from a non-nuclear one, given the premise to avoid wars between nuclear powers by proxy it means that a nuclear nation can then invade and annex anything in their surroundings with little repercussion, since we want to avoid any escalation towards nuclear powers at war. They settle for peace, the nuclear power gets what they want, stops for a while to re-arm, and then pushes to another non-nuclear nation.

What would stop other nations from pursuing their own nukes if that's the case? It also would make any military alliance such as NATO moot, there are only 3 nuclear powers in the alliance, any other country in the alliance which gets invaded by a nuclear power wouldn't be able to call for help since we want to avoid nuclear confrontation.

This only spirals more and more, countries without nukes are at a massive disadvantage, they will naturally seek nukes to protect themselves, just increasing the odds that a nuclear exchange will happen by sheer statistics.

> This is why I will be voting for the candidate who was not endorsed by Dick Cheney.

Proving my point that you don't think very rationally at all.

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bspammer10/11/2024

The candidate I assume you’re voting for increased the future nuclear threat last time he was in office by pulling out of the Iran deal, for no good reason at all. He’s also one of the most jingoistic people in politics.

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fifilura10/11/2024

I am not talking about any conflict in particular. I am just pointing out that this is the consequence of that kind of policy.

The world is not black and white.

And that also gives you the right to choose what part of the grayscale you want to be, good on you!

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aguaviva10/11/2024

I don't know if the Russians are just as jingoistic and corrupt,

Short story: current regime in the Russian Federation quite definitely is, may more so in fact, and has fascist, revanchist, genocidal ideology to boot. You may want to look further into its history (and that of the Russian/Soviet empires, which it sees itself as the natural successor to), and into the writings/thinking of the folks the helm of that regime in more detail sometime.

Sabotaging negotiations in Turkey

That's a myth, as you will easy verify for yourself by doing adequate research into the topic.

Forget about Dick Cheney. Instead look into who's been drip-feeding you false narratives like the above, and why.

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EasyMark10/11/2024

literally all the Russians have to do is stop and go back home and the war is over. they will never do that because they elected a President who is named Putin and now he has a Hitleresque dream of taking all the old Soviet vassal states back. He is the one doing this and he is the one you will have to convince to stop; although I am sure there are plenty of yes men that he has attracted to his orbit to support his crazed dream of Soviet restoration

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