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nmstoker10/11/20246 repliesview on HN

It's good to see some serious arguments for WFH.

Globally much of the pro-office camp's public position is driven by personal leanings of CEOs who genuinely seem to have made the decisions without evidence, often it's something they're very grumpy about (hardly the best state of mind for good judgement) and often based on the assumption that company productivity is based on workers doing what they do (usually far from the truth, workers in general don't have anything like the same composition of tasks that CEOs do).

It's unfortunate to that it has divided into camps, as there are bound to be cases/roles/groupings of workers where one approach comes out better and others where it's worse. But very quickly everyone went pretty much for one-size fits all (with a few exceptions).


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JoshTriplett10/11/2024

> Globally much of the pro-office camp's public position is driven by personal leanings of CEOs who genuinely seem to have made the decisions without evidence

In some cases, the pressure is also coming from external to the company, from cities and VCs and similar who care about the commercial real-estate value of now-abandoned offices.

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colechristensen10/12/2024

Working in the office could be pretty nice with reasonable commute times and actual office space for employees. Like earning a top 10ish percent salary but the parking lot is full and people use bike locks on their office chairs so they don’t get stolen because they aren’t enough chairs.

Give me an office with a door and a reasonable commute and I’ll be happy to go in to work every day.

“Cost optimize” your office space until it’s hell for me and it’s a no until you double my salary.

And cities don’t need to be designed like they are, seas of residential that are miles away from any workspace and all of the offices crammed together in unlivable downtowns that only have living spaces for single young people.

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baxtr10/12/2024

It’s unfortunate that it has gotten so black and white. I’m a big fan of WFH. But I also think it’s beneficial to see people in the office and interact on a regular basis. Why can’t we have both?

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j4510/12/2024

The issue seems to be less about wfh or not.

It’s just how well does a company culture support distributed work (many locations) or not.

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lowbloodsugar10/11/2024

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datavirtue10/11/2024

We simply are not going back, period. They are fighting the trend. Ask your analysis team and marketing about what happens to people that fight the trend.

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