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nuancebydefaultyesterday at 8:53 PM11 repliesview on HN

Why are such things in the US so complicated? Where I live, studying is much much cheaper for most professions,for everyone!

That's the only fair way. Also, a set of well educated people pays itself back later in the form of mostly income and added value taxes, which provides money to keep studying for cheap for the next generation.


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0xEFtoday at 9:45 AM

The short answer is greed, plain and simple. Higher Education has not been an institution for the people in the US for a long, long time. It may never have been, actually. It's a business, same as our Healthcare industry and businesses run on maximizing profit margins so that is their primary goal.

Nifty3929yesterday at 11:08 PM

Because the US government will loan people very large sums to attend, which allows the universities to raise prices at will. The buyers are price-inelastic, which means that they want to go regardless of price, because they are surrounded by people that tell them that going to college is the right thing to do - and the more prestigious the better.

College in the US would be a lot cheaper if the government didn't inflate it. If you go back in time just a few decades, this is how it was: you paid for it, either in cash or with a PRIVATE loan, and people didn't see college as an automatic requirement. Then it was 1/10th as expensive.

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s1artibartfastyesterday at 9:36 PM

Because education is largely an afterthought, and universities primarily compete on entertainment and prestige.

High cost and exclusivity is the entire point.

A university open to all with a fraction of the price would be a poorly ranked one in every competitive measure.

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itsoktocryyesterday at 9:45 PM

>Where I live, studying is much much cheaper for most professions,for everyone!

I'll go out on a limb and bet people in your country earn much less than the average American, too. Why? Why don't companies just pay these people more? IT all comes back in income and value added taxes.

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Hilifttoday at 7:27 AM

Some prominent universities in the US have ballooned with administration in the past 20 years. MIT in particular has a $1.2 billion administration cost out of a $4.5 billion annual budget.

bobmcnamarayesterday at 10:15 PM

Roger Freeman, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan's education advisor, was afraid that educated voters would turn the United States towards communism.

One of Ronald Reagan's campaign promises was dismantling or breaking the department of education, similar to what he had done to California's state universities by limiting their budgets and moving the burden of tuition to students.

At the time this was quite popular as it lowered taxes.

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currymjyesterday at 10:31 PM

the ideal is that college should be very expensive for rich people and cheap, free, or at least more affordable, for less wealthy people.

american universities get closer to this ideal than you might expect. the days of outrageous student debt are thankfully fading away, at least for undergraduate degrees.

it would make more sense to do this redistribution through taxes if possible, but many US institutions are private so that doesn’t really work. so the colleges basically have their own privately-run means testing programs, and like all such programs there are flaws and loopholes.

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dec0dedab0deyesterday at 10:53 PM

We have plenty of cheaper schools too, and they’re fine.

The expensive schools are for the richest people to say they went to school next to the best students who get in free.And for the best students to meet rich people.

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sunshowersyesterday at 10:57 PM

Education in the US isn't cheap but those are elite colleges. The price tag is mostly for the networking.

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inglor_czyesterday at 9:49 PM

American universities sell their students a lot of amenities that aren't really necessary for study. Not to mention the bloated admin class. You want to feel "in" when it comes to social justice? Here are your administrators that do the rituals of social justice as a full-time job, but they demand salaries.

As for amenities, back in Europe, many universities don't even have a campus, just a scattering of buildings all around the city, acquired randomly as the school grew (that includes dorm buildings, often quite far from one another). You will spend some extra time commuting among them, but the university saves money - and, indirectly, you too.

Getting from dorm to lectures usually took me about 30 minutes each way - on foot, then subway, then on foot again.

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MisterBastahrdyesterday at 9:48 PM

Because America is a place where people have been indoctrinated to believe that misery is the cost of freedom. It's a place where half the population would rather read your obituary or donate to your fundraiser than simply have a healthcare system that people can use in a timely manner without worrying about cost.

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