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lostloginyesterday at 6:09 AM3 repliesview on HN

You can have a mortgage with no insurance (after purchase day) here in New Zealand. The bank won’t like it, but also won’t know.


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robocatyesterday at 7:58 AM

You are right that you can get away with it in NZ.

For total loss then bankruptcy might save you money (assuming you have no other assets or kiwisaver; since you still owe the debt).

But part of the contract with the bank is allowing the bank and insurance company to verify/update.

If you cancel your insurance, the insurance company is incentivised to tell the bank since you will probably sign up for insurance again when told to by the bank. I don't believe the banks or insurance have push updates. I would guess banks batch check if insurance is still live annually?

I live in Christchurch and I believe insurance is valuable risk management - plenty of people gambled and lost with Earthquakes. That said: I own an as-is house because I bought a 3 bedroom on 800m2 for $190000 (cheap because you can't get a mortgage for it because it is uninsurable due to subsidence - I only paid land price).

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girvoyesterday at 6:12 AM

Banks in Australia were the same, but some are now starting to demand proof of insurance yearly to counter that loophole.

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inferiorhumanyesterday at 7:30 AM

You can do that in the US too. As well the banks won't like it, so what they'll do is protect their assets with force-placed insurance that you pay a hefty premium for.

A quick google suggests a similar situation in that there's no legal mandate but most lenders in NZ require insurance.