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salawatlast Wednesday at 12:33 AM2 repliesview on HN

Any Jitsi deployment?

Let's be clear here. Meta/other sites are abusing the technology TURN/WebRTC for a purpose it was never intended for, way beyond the comfortable confines of innocent hackery, and we all know it.

That's asshole behavior, and worth naming, shaming, and ostracizing over.


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klabb3last Thursday at 1:03 PM

> That's asshole behavior, and worth naming, shaming, and ostracizing over.

These exploits are being developed, distributed and orchestrated by Meta. The ”millions of websites” are just hummus recipe content farms using their ad SDKs, and are downstream Zuck in every meaningful interpretation of the term.

Meta has been named and shamed for decades. Shame only works in a society where bad actors are punished by the masses of people that constitute Meta’s products. Doesn’t mean we should stop, only that it’s not enough.

AnthonyMouselast Wednesday at 5:36 AM

More than that, talking about TURN or WebRTC is really missing the issue. If you lock everything down so that no one can do anything you wouldn't want a malicious actor to be able to do, then no one can do anything.

The real issue is, why are we putting up with having these apps on our devices? Why do we have laws that prohibit you from e.g. using a third party app from a trusted party or with published source code in order to access the Facebook service, instead of the untrustworthy official app which is evidently actual malware?

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