logoalt Hacker News

justanotherjoeyesterday at 7:38 PM8 repliesview on HN

I don't get why people are so invested in framing it this way. I'm sure there are ways to do the stated objective. John Carmack isn't even an AI guy why is he suddenly the standard.


Replies

GuB-42yesterday at 11:21 PM

Who is an "AI guy"? The field as we know it is fairly new. Sure, neural nets are old hat, but a lot has happened in the last few years.

John Carmack founded Keen technology in 2022 and has been working seriously on AI since 2019. From his experience in the video game industry, he knows a thing or two about linear algebra and GPUs, that is the underlying maths and the underlying hardware.

So, for all intent and purposes, he is an "AI guy" now.

show 1 reply
qaqyesterday at 7:59 PM

Keen includes researchers like Richard Sutton, Joseph Modayil etc. Also John has being doing it full time for almost 5 years now so given his background and aptitude for learning I would imaging by this time he is more of an AI guy then a fairly large percentage of AI PhDs.

show 1 reply
surecoocoocooyesterday at 11:42 PM

Ah some No True Scotsman

Not sure why justanotherjoe is a credible resource on who is and isn’t expert in some new dialectic and euphemism for machine state management. You’re that nobody to me :shrug:

Yann LeCun is an AI guy and has simplified it as “not much more than physical statistics.”

WWhole lot of AI is decades old info theory books applied to modern computer.

Either a mem value is or isn’t what’s expected. Either an entire matrix of values is or isn’t what’s expected. Store the results of some such rules. There’s your model.

The words are made up and arbitrary because human existence is arbitrary. You’re being sold on a bridge to nowhere.

show 1 reply
varjagyesterday at 7:53 PM

What in your opinion constitutes an AI guy?

show 1 reply
energy123today at 1:32 AM

Credentialism is bad, especially when used as a stick

raincoleyesterday at 8:42 PM

Because it "confirms" what they already believe in.

refulgentisyesterday at 8:31 PM

Names >> all, and increasingly so.

One phenomena that bared this to me, in a substantive way, was noticing an increasing # of reverent comments re: Geohot in odd places here, that are just as quickly replied to by people with a sense of how he works, as opposed to the keywords he associates himself with. But that only happens here AFAIK.

Yapping, or, inducing people to yap about me, unfortunately, is much more salient to my expected mindshare than the work I do.

It's getting claustrophobic intellectually, as a result.

Example from the last week is the phrase "context engineering" - Shopify CEO says he likes it better than prompt engineering, Karpathy QTs to affirm, SimonW writes it up as fait accompli. Now I have to rework my site to not use "prompt engineering" and have a Take™ on "context engineering". Because of a couple tweets + a blog reverberating over 2-3 days.

Nothing against Carmack, or anyone else named, at all. i.e. in the context engineering case, they're just sharing their thoughts in realtime. (i.e. I don't wanna get rolled up into a downvote brigade because it seems like I'm affirming the loose assertion Carmack is "not an AI guy", or, that it seems I'm criticizing anyone's conduct at all)

EDIT: The context engineering example was not in reference to another post at the time of writing, now one is the top of front page.

show 1 reply
sieabahlparkyesterday at 8:00 PM

[dead]