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wredcolllast Tuesday at 12:10 AM1 replyview on HN

As I recall, the Starcraft ones heavily involved being able to exploit the computer's advantage in "twitch" speed over any human, it's just a slightly more complicated way of how any aim-bot enabled AI will always beat a human in an FPS, the game is designed to reward a certain amount of physical speed and accuracy.

In other words, the Starcraft AIs that win do so by microing every single unit in the entire game at the same time, which is pretty clever, but if you reduce them to interfacing with the game in the same way a human does, they start losing.

One of my pet peeves when we talk about the various chess engines is yes, given a board state they can output the next set of moves to beat any human, but can they teach someone else to play chess? I'm not trying to activate some kinda "gotcha" here, just getting at what does it actually mean to "know how to play chess". We'd expect any human that claimed to know how to play to be able to teach any other human pretty trivially.


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8n4vidtmkvmklast Tuesday at 6:21 AM

I don't think the current chess models can train humans to play, but I imagine that's another thing that can be optimized for. Start with some existing chess training program, sprinkle in some AI, collect some data, figure out what methods increase ELO score the fastest.