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ajrosslast Saturday at 9:26 PM7 repliesview on HN

I guess, but Amazon gets me stuff tomorrow or the next day, reliably, week in and week out. Yeah, I could find this stuff elsewhere on the internet. But not for Tuesday delivery. And not without opening another account. Also, right now, often only by paying a tariff-adjacent fee to cover the import costs of the vendors that didn't have the foresight to pre-stock imports like Amazon did.

People who want to write stuff like this really need to reckon with the fact that Amazon is and remains the superior product, and by a very significant degree.

They're not winning because they "hate democracy" or are "full-stop evil" or whatever. They're winning because they're the best.


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ezstlast Saturday at 9:58 PM

And that's kind of an issue. Amazon effectively has a monopoly in this space, and competing at a similar level just is not possible anymore. And Amazon is so big that, even when you have a better product and service, it can buy you off¹.

¹: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souq_(company)

no_wizardlast Saturday at 9:33 PM

This is the reality.

I have moved anything I don’t need quickly off Amazon as much as reasonably possible, and I do avoid some things from Amazon as well, but for too many things they’re the cheapest and fastest option, or the 2nd cheapest and fastest option.

Also if I think there is a reasonably high chance I’ll return an item, I also go through Amazon, because they haven’t once in 20 years I’ve been using them giving me an issue, charged a restocking fee etc.

Other online shops simply don’t match enough of these Amazon value prop to sway me over

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viraptorlast Saturday at 10:03 PM

Amazon enables us to buy lots of things we just wouldn't if there was just a little bit more of friction. I'm not sure it's an overall positive that they have next day delivery. We'd definitely be better overall if Amazon didn't undermine smaller shops using discounts only they can afford long term.

agnishomyesterday at 12:18 AM

"They're winning because they're the best."

They are also actively preventing other marketplaces from being better. For example, for exclusive audiobooks on audible, the producers are paid 40% but only 25% for non-exclusive ones.

SlowTaolast Saturday at 9:35 PM

This statement is not an attack on your character or being just a broad generalization.

The biggest addiction of the modern era is convenience. Once people have it, it is very difficult to give up. We are all addicted to this, we aren't running this site via the letters column in a newspaper, because of convenience. But it also means we tend to ignore the negatives of said services.

Your point of them winning because they're the best, that can also be true. But because of that and the convenience addiction they provide, we let them get away with all the other stuff.

I'm not saying this is an excuse to use Amazon, I have never used it. I am just saying it is a hard hurdle for some to overcome.

fred_is_fredlast Saturday at 9:29 PM

Canceling my Prime account mainly meant I bought less stuff overall. A win for my wallet and the planet in the end. I need zero friction in my life for healthy eating and exercise, not for buying crap from a Chinese brand of the week (Glorf, Qerdu, Plund or whatever).

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tenuousemphasislast Saturday at 9:34 PM

Humans survived up until about 20 years ago without free 2-day shipping. You'll be fine.

Or you could compromise your morals for convenience, I guess.

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