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scosmanlast Sunday at 6:03 PM4 repliesview on HN

He's comparing to a studio when he should compare to the mini for this performance. They are almost the same price at a 64gb RAM + 500gb storage config (CAD).

- Framework, Max+ 64GB: $2,861.16

- Apple Mini M4 Pro, 64GB: $2,899.00

Apple does charge way too much for integrated storage, but Apple is only a 25% premium at 2TB not double (if you compare to the mini instead of the studio). Plug in a NVMe SSD if you're building an Apple desktop.


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dijitlast Sunday at 6:10 PM

Not to defend Apple here, but it's also a bit apples to oranges (heh) because the power consumption is not easily comparable.

I would hazard a guess and say: at that spec, if you're looking at 1Y TCO, the Apple could easily be cost competitive performance per dollar.

Since they're in spitting distance of each other, just get the one you're most comfortable with. Personally I prefer Linux and I'm really happy that non-Apple machines are starting to get closer to the same efficiency and performance!

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tracker1last Tuesday at 8:38 PM

I'm not sure where you got $2861 for the Max+ Framework 64gb, unless you put two massively larger drives than the Mac Mini comes with... I got $2100 for the Max+ 64gb with the faster 2tb drive option. +400 to go to 128gb ram.

zamadatixlast Monday at 2:15 AM

One note is the Mac Mini surprisingly has 3rd party SSD upgrades now as well. Both gauge the storage price a bit, so probably best to just go 3rd party for both unless you're going to stick with the base storage.

arp242last Sunday at 7:57 PM

Framework also charges quite a surplus on the SSD. For example "WD_BLACK SN7100 NVMe 2TB" is €229, but a more typical price is around ~€140, so that's about €90 extra. Don't know how that compares to Apple.

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