logoalt Hacker News

lucideerlast Sunday at 7:47 PM5 repliesview on HN

A little context here since this website is highly misleading:

- EU Council holds more power in Europe than EU Parliament

- EU Council is pushing this regulation

- this website misrepresents the positions of most members of EU Parliament - it shows "Supports" despite most of them being "Unknown"

Overall, while people should be encouraged to contact their MEPs, I suspect many are already very informed on this & strongly opposed. Whether Parliament will end up having enough power to stop it is a different question.


Replies

x775last Sunday at 8:15 PM

Ultimately, both the EU Council and the European Parliament must agree on legislation for it to pass. The Parliament acts as a co-legislator with equal legislative power in this process, effectively representing the citizens while the Council represents the member states governments. Both have to agree. In the case of Chat Control, Denmark, as the current EU Council Presidency, revived the proposal (after it previously failed to reach agreement during both the Belgian and Polish Presidency). In order for this to pass at the Council level, at least 15/27 member states must support it. If this were to happen, it would then reach the European Parliament and would have to be approved there as well. However, as support at the Council level seems greater than in previous renditions (supported further by Denmark's insistence on an expedited vote scheduled for October 14), it seems prudent to target beyond merely the Council-level.

show 3 replies
Nemo_bislast Sunday at 10:09 PM

You mean the Council of the EU. The EUCO is a separate body. SCNR.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/decision-makin...

beberleilast Sunday at 7:57 PM

Came here to say the same thing, confused how a website like this can be made, the people behind it must have not understood how the EU works.

If Germany is listed as "Undecided" then this is in the Council. The 96 MPs are from a wide spectrum of parties and most of them will already be either for, or against this.

elriclast Monday at 6:40 AM

IMO this kind of pedantry detracts from the message. We know that the EC is pushing it, but the EC does not represent the people, that's the job of MEPs. Thus a list of MEPs from countries, colour coded by whether or not the country is known to support the position. And optionally a marker for their personal opinion if known.

show 1 reply
jokslast Sunday at 8:45 PM

The whole site has that vibe-coded-website look. I wonder if a lot of the information on the site was essentially hallucinated too.