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markstosyesterday at 2:50 PM3 repliesview on HN

The problem here is not just Google, but huge companies in general that operate at a scale where algorithms are the only viable way to sufficiently keep abuse under control.

Reddit recently shadowbanned me as my account was approaching 20 years old. There was no message about what violation had been committed, and attempts to appeal went unanswered. All posts started getting filtered at some point and all comments throttled.

The Fediverse provides a template for a better way-- smaller connected services with better moderator to user ratios.


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hamdingersyesterday at 3:48 PM

If your concern is being mysteriously cut off from communities by capricious and inscrutable moderators then all the Fediverse offers is an opportunity to experience that over and over indefinitely. I've never encountered a community less interested in accountable moderation.

Is it still true that pretty much anyone can post your handle with #fediblock and get you and your entire instance sent to the cornfield automatically by hundreds of servers? This destroyed my city's mastodon instance and drove everyone I knew there to bluesky.

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edoceoyesterday at 2:57 PM

Algorithm isn't the only viable way. G has a massive amount of cash. Enough to employ 100 people to manage these edge cases. But that cuts margin.

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reaperduceryesterday at 5:18 PM

The problem here is not just Google, but huge companies in general that operate at a scale where algorithms are the only viable way to sufficiently keep abuse under control.

The companies you speak of are billion- and trillion-dollar companies. Banning people is not the only viable way of doing things.

They have the money. They choose not to spend it.

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