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buu700last Sunday at 9:21 PM1 replyview on HN

> The comment I was replying to was effectively saying "no one cares about kids so you're lying if you say 'for the children'".

I don't see that in the comment you replied to. They pointed out that LLM providers have a commercial interest in avoiding bad press, which is true. No one stops buying Fords or BMWs when someone drives one off a cliff or into a crowd of people, but LLMs are new and confusing and people might react in all sorts of illogical ways to stories involving LLMs.

> Part of the reason these "for the children" arguments are so persistent is that lots of people do genuinely want these things "for the children".

I'm sure that's true. People genuinely want lots of things that are awful ideas.


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slglast Sunday at 9:41 PM

Here is what was said that prompted my initial reply:

>When a model is censored for "AI safety", what they really mean is brand safety.

The equivalent analogy wouldn't be Fords and BMWs driving off a cliff, they effectively said that Ford and BMW only install safety features in their cars to protect their brand with the implication that no one at these companies actually cares about the safety of actual people. That is an incredibly cynical and amoral worldview and it appears to be the dominate view of people on HN.

Once again, you can say that specific AI safety features are stupid or aren't worth the tradeoff. I would have never replied if the original comment said that. I replied because the original comment dismissed the motivations behind these AI safety features.

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