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bethekidyouwantlast Saturday at 11:21 PM6 repliesview on HN

“The change means that all 18-year-olds in Germany will be sent a questionnaire from January 2026 asking if they are interested and willing to join the armed forces. The form will be mandatory for men and voluntary for women.“ - all men have to fill out and return a form, I suppose this will work to increase recruitment. Doesn’t seem very controversial.


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throw310822last Saturday at 11:28 PM

Why do they have to fill it in and return it just to say no? Could this be used against them at some time in the future? And why women instead can just ignore it?

Usually HN is very wary of the consequences of the state collecting data about its citizens and restricting freedoms in small steps. Is it not the case now?

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le-marklast Saturday at 11:50 PM

Eighteen year olds in the US have to fill out a “selective services” form. This was for the draft, and continues in case the draft is ever reinstated. So in peace time not problem, in wartime? Different story.

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m000last Saturday at 11:55 PM

The problem here that this probably is only part of a larger society militarization plan.

The guaranteed next step is to offer the volunteers a long term paid contract at the end of their term. This would probably be well above what they would be paid elsewhere (young men with no university degree, desperate enough to volunteer in the first place).

Run the scheme for a few years, and you will have a large number of, young, high-school-level educated people that are financially dependent on the army. Thus, a militarized society.

What could possibly go wrong?

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alistairSHlast Saturday at 11:28 PM

They only recently (2011?) ended mandatory conscription so this is a pretty big about-face.

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fasbinerlast Saturday at 11:31 PM

This may be too far of an obscure historical reference, but is there really nothing specific to German history and nothing within german civic education and contemporary national identity formation that might make this potentially more controversial?

Hint:some of these events involved spheres of influence and control over resources in eastern europe!

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anonym29yesterday at 12:11 AM

Has a standing army of angry young men, resentful at their economic circumstances in Germany ever historically caused any problems?