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bilekaslast Friday at 2:44 PM4 repliesview on HN

Unfortunately as I see it, even if you want to contribute to open source out of a pure passion or enjoyment, they don't respect the licenses that are consumed. And the "training" companies are not being held liable.

Are there any proposals to nail down an open source license which would explicitly exclude use with AI systems and companies?


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rpdillonlast Friday at 3:59 PM

All licenses rely on the power of copyright and what we're still figuring out is whether training is subject to the limitations of copyright or if it's permissible under fair use. If it's found to be fair use in the majority of situations, no license can be constructed that will protect you.

Even if you could construct such a license, it wouldn't be OSI open source because it would discriminate based on field of endeavor.

And it would inevitably catch benevolent behavior that is AI-related in its net. That's because these terms are ill-defined and people use them very sloppily. There is no agreed-upon definition for something like gen AI or even AI.

MonkeyClublast Friday at 2:51 PM

Even if you license it prohibiting AI use, how would you litigate against such uses? An open source project can't afford the same legal resources that AI firms have access to.

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y-curiouslast Friday at 2:47 PM

Where is this spirit when AWS takes a FOSS project, puts it in the cloud and monetizes it?

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muldvarplast Friday at 2:48 PM

> Unfortunately as I see it, even if you want to contribute to open source out of a pure passion or enjoyment, they don't respect the licenses that are consumed.

Because it is "transformative" and therefore "fair" use.

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