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lll-o-lllyesterday at 9:34 PM12 repliesview on HN

We are destroying ourselves; the very core of what it is to be human. I say this acknowledging the irony of writing this on my phone, on a Sunday morning, when I should be engaging with the real world and people in my life.

Television was rightly criticised for being the opiate of the masses; a continuous stream of entertainment that allows you to ‘stop thinking’ to endure boredom. However it had some constraints. The box was in a fixed space, I could not bring it with me. The content was fixed, it could not always engage me.

Social media, and every other ‘content delivery’ system is not like this. It is in my pocket, there is so much content, it can keep me continually engaged. AI content generation optimises this, perhaps, but we already live in this dystopia.

Rise up and revolt! Put down our phones and refuse to engage! Our very lives, our humanity depends on it!


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asmortoday at 4:22 AM

> When I should be engaging with the real world and people in my life.

While I appreciate the sentiment, I don't think you need to couple "offline interaction" with this criticism. As a neurodivergent person in more than one way I appreciate being able to interact with people that face similar challenges to me and understand me. The problem is that social media is increasingly designed to not facilitate that, but content distribution.

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rfreyyesterday at 9:55 PM

Maybe the very core of what it is to be human is to destroy ourselves.

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cons0leyesterday at 11:23 PM

We need the Butlerian Jihad

jama211today at 5:15 AM

Social media is bad but this might be being slightly dramatic IMO

kbrkbryesterday at 9:50 PM

The original opiate for the people criticism was leveled against religion by Karl Marx:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people

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__MatrixMan__yesterday at 9:55 PM

I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't think that calls for generic revolt are likely to get us anywhere. It's gotta be targeted and meaningful and executed with a measure of a restraint. It needs to be clear we can be reasoned with.

So what kind of revolt are you calling for? Are we dumping GPU's into the ocean like we did with tea in Boston that one time? Are we disconnecting datacenters from the internet? Are we all gonna change our profile picture? Specifics please.

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poisonborzyesterday at 10:01 PM

It is in the distant future still (if we ever get there without apocalypse first) but I think the goal was set out to be, from the very first bits of digital data, is to completely transition ourselves to a digital world. Living it in parallel will make less sense if Earth conditions get worse, and even less in space or on a hostile planet. In a digital world possibilities become limitless, disabilities, distances, shortcomings of the mind eliminated. Once you can't see a difference, will it matter if something is "real"? Sure, it can also become a hell and inhumane much easier, but this doesn't make it a less compelling dimension.

Looking through this lens, fighting, limiting internet usage is akin to moving to the rainforest to avoid capitalism - lone rebelling acts in the wrong direction of history, a temporary, partial victory for the few who dare this hassle.

Time is better spent to make this emerging space better, for everyone.

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rustystumpyesterday at 11:59 PM

> so much content, it can keep me continually engaged

I find the total opposite to be true. I desperately want more engaging content to feed the gooey goblin in my brain but the overwhelming majority doesn't cut it and this was before AI.

Almost every show I see on netflix, tiktok I glance at, or reddit post is absolute unflavored mash potatoes. Content for content's sake. Feed me more content like scavengers reign and less frankenstein remakes or super hero slop.

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cess11yesterday at 10:07 PM

Perhaps one could frame it as "The Self under Siege".

https://rickroderick.org/300-guide-the-self-under-siege-1993...

shadowgovtyesterday at 9:42 PM

That sounds like work.

rlmp_89yesterday at 10:42 PM

It has been well theorized by A. Dugin : Wére now in the era of full realization / triumph of postmodernity. After having crushed all its 20th-century adversaries, western liberalism and its ideology of universal 'progress' will destroy everything that makes us truly human

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