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budududuroiutoday at 3:05 PM6 repliesview on HN

Whenever these people ask for more power in order to "stop/prevent crime", there should be a bot that replies a list of times when the police didn't act to stop crime, despite having full knowledge of the crime occuring and potential to stop it from happening.

EU member and supporter of Chat Control, Romania, had a massive scandal where a kidnapped 15 year old girl called emergency services multiple times to report she was being kidnapped, every single time, the operators and the police officers spoke to her in an ironic and condescending tone. It took 19 hours to locate her, by which time, she was already dead. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Alexandra_M%C4%8...


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atmosxtoday at 5:40 PM

Two years ago a woman in Greece phoned the police, begging for a patrol car because her ex was about to “kill her.” The officer mockingly replied, “Police cars aren’t taxis”. Seconds later she screamed, “He’s here! He’s going to kill me” (screams). She was murdered outside the police department moments later.

https://www.ertnews.gr/eidiseis/ellada/ag-anargyroi-plirofor...

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alistairSHtoday at 3:42 PM

Even better, in the US, the police have zero obligation to actually protect anybody from crime (unless that person is in government custody). The courts have upheld this time and again.

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themafiatoday at 7:01 PM

Or a bot that lists out all the times police have been given these powers only for them to be abused.

Flock is a great example. Story after story in the local news (only there for some reason) about police officers being disciplined or fired because they stalked people using the flock system.

Meanwhile not a single story where a major case was cracked by, and could only have been cracked by, the flock camera system.

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asdfftoday at 8:07 PM

All the technology and clearance rates are the same as they ever were.

mothballedtoday at 3:42 PM

In some parts of the world it's well known if you actually want the police to show up, just claim there are lots of drugs or cash at the location. That will actually get the police excited since they stand to gain from it. It's not clear why the police would care someone is being raped/murdered since they cannot profit from that. Although at 15 I would not expect someone to be wise enough to the world to figure that out.

simion314today at 3:48 PM

From my memory this case can actually be used to support spyware, I remember all the media complaining "how is it possible that the police or the secret service can't instantly locate a phone very precisely" , same when that airplane crashed and the people were calling for help but the authorities could not get the coordinates and searched for hours , the media was demanding that the police or other services have the technical ability to locate any person in distress.

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