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katzgrauyesterday at 3:08 PM4 repliesview on HN

It’s not really subjective if you don’t believe it’s your place to judge the human to begin with.

If you were in their exact life circumstance and environment you would do the same thing. You aren’t going to magically sidestep cause and effect.

The act itself is bad.

The human performing the act was misguided.

I view people as inherently perfect whose view of life, themselves, and their current situations as potentially misguided.

Eg, like a diamond covered in shit.

Just like it’s possible for a diamond to be uncovered and polished, the human is capable of acquiring a truer perspective and more aligned set of behaviors - redemption. Everyone is capable of redemption so nobody is inherently bad. Thinking otherwise may be convenient but is ultimately misguided too.

So the act and the person are separate.

Granted, we need to protect society from such misguidedness, so we have laws, punishments, etc.

But it’s about protecting us from bad behavior, not labeling the individual as bad.


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Dylan16807today at 3:42 AM

If free will doesn't exist then you "shouldn't" judge people for their choices but also you can't stop yourself from doing so.

If free will does exist then yes you can judge people for their choices.

Everyone is capable of redemption but saying they need redemption is judging them.

WalterBrightyesterday at 5:40 PM

> If you were in their exact life circumstance and environment you would do the same thing.

I don't buy that for a moment. It presumes people do not have choices.

The difference between a man and an animal is a man has honor. Each of us gets to choose if we are a man or an animal.

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philipallstaryesterday at 6:45 PM

> The human performing the act was misguided.

What does this mean? If someone rapes someone else, they were inherently perfect but misguided, in your view?