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rvnxyesterday at 2:03 PM10 repliesview on HN

It's also illegal in many jurisdictions (e.g. in the US, viewed as a scheme to defraud advertisers by generating invalid clicks that cause financial harm, by depleting their budgets and push them to spend for fake traffic), but in practice it's way easier to just blacklist that IP / user.

The big networks filter such traffic, the small networks benefit from it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/legal/comments/1pq6kgp/is_it_legal_...

You may also get accidentally get your own website blacklisted or moved to a lower RPM tier, or provoke shadow-ban websites that you like to visit, or... generate more ad revenue for them.


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Terrettayesterday at 2:09 PM

Don't tell me I'm not allowed to click buttons you put in my face.

Any jurisdiction where this is supposedly illegal, it hasn't been court tested seriously.*

Per your link: "What you're describing is essentially the extension AdNauseam. So far they have not had any legal troubles, but they technically could." That stance or an assertion it's not illegal is consistent throughout the thread, provided you aren't clicking your own ads.

"The industry" thinks you shouldn't be allowed to fast forward your own VCR through an ad either. They can take a flying .. lesson.

* Disclaimer: I don't know if that's true, but it sounds true.

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bmandaleyesterday at 3:25 PM

click fraud consists of the person who runs a website themselves clicking, running bots to click, paying someone else to click, etc ads on their own website. it becomes fraud first because they have contractually agreed not to do that, and second because they are materially benefiting from it. an unaligned third party clicking (etc) on ads has neither of those conditions being true, and hence isn't fraud or otherwise illegal.

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infectoyesterday at 2:37 PM

Wrong. There is no law saying you cannot click every link on a website within your browser. It would not only be impossible to prove but also entirely wrong interpretation of existing laws.

Now if you had an AdWords account and ran a botnet that visited your property and clicked ads, that’s fraud.

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Larrikinyesterday at 3:12 PM

You're all over this thread spreading misinformation. AdNauseam has been around since 2014. It is specifically banned in the Chrome store so Google knows of it's existence. If you check the wikipedia page you'll see that they have landed in the press and taken multiple actions against the extension. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdNauseam

Usually when it's brought up people say it doesn't work or try to spread fear that it is illegal. Google banning them but taking no action otherwise indicates to me and the thousands who use it that it is in fact effective and Google has no other recourse other than their control over the most popular browser.

reaperduceryesterday at 7:45 PM

It's also illegal in many jurisdictions (e.g. in the US

Never in the history of HN has a [citation] been so [needed].

And from an actual lawyer, not just some rando cosplaying M&A in his mom's basement.

_DeadFred_yesterday at 5:27 PM

A plugin that does pre-fetch is illegal?

snarfyyesterday at 9:03 PM

A "scheme to defraud advertisers", how infuriating.

Advertisers are stealing my time and attention. Why is this not illegal also then?

pbronezyesterday at 2:09 PM

Seriously? What laws catch it out?

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