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mortarionyesterday at 11:08 AM3 repliesview on HN

CSAM does not have a universal definition. In Sweden for instance, CSAM is any image of an underage subject (real or realistic digital) designed to evoke a sexual response. If you take a picture of a 14 year old girl (age of consent is 15) and use Grok to give her bikini, or make her topless, then you are most definately producing and possessing CSAM.

No abuse of a real minor is needed.


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worthless-trashyesterday at 11:33 AM

As good as Australia's little boobie laws.

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logicchainsyesterday at 1:00 PM

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chrisjjyesterday at 12:16 PM

> CSAM does not have a universal definition.

Strange that there was no disagreement before "AI", right? Yet now we have a clutch of new "definitions" all of which dilute and weaken the meaning.

> In Sweden for instance, CSAM is any image of an underage subject (real or realistic digital) designed to evoke a sexual response.

No corroboration found on web. Quite the contrary, in fact:

"Sweden does not have a legislative definition of child sexual abuse material (CSAM)"

https://rm.coe.int/factsheet-sweden-the-protection-of-childr...

> If you take a picture of a 14 year old girl (age of consent is 15) and use Grok to give her bikini, or make her topless, then you are most definately producing and possessing CSAM.

> No abuse of a real minor is needed.

Even the Google "AI" knows better than that. CSAM "is considered a record of a crime, emphasizing that its existence represents the abuse of a child."

Putting a bikini on a photo of a child may be distasteful abuse of a photo, but it is not abuse of a child - in any current law.

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