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vessenesyesterday at 11:59 AM5 repliesview on HN

Interesting. This is basically the second enforcement on speech / images that France has done - first was Pavel Durov @ Telegram. He eventually made changes in Telegram's moderation infrastructure and I think was allowed to leave France sometime last year.

I don't love heavy-handed enforcement on speech issues, but I do really like a heterogenous cultural situation, so I think it's interesting and probably to the overall good to have a country pushing on these matters very hard, just as a matter of keeping a diverse set of global standards, something that adds cultural resilience for humanity.

linkedin is not a replacement for twitter, though. I'm curious if they'll come back post-settlement.


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tokaiyesterday at 12:46 PM

In what world is generating CSAM a speech issue? Its really doing a disservice to actual free speech issues to frame it was such.

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StopDisinfo910yesterday at 12:50 PM

Very different charges however.

Durov was held on suspicion Telegram was willingly failing to moderate its platform and allowed drug trafficking and other illegal activities to take place.

X has allegedly illegally sent data to the US in violation of GDPR and contributed to child porn distribution.

Note that both are directly related to direct violation of data safety law or association with a separate criminal activities, neither is about speech.

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logicchainsyesterday at 12:49 PM

>but I do really like a heterogenous cultural situation, so I think it's interesting and probably to the overall good to have a country pushing on these matters very hard

Censorship increases homogeneity, because it reduces the amount of ideas and opinions that are allowed to be expressed. The only resilience that comes from restricting people's speech is resilience of the people in power.

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derridayesterday at 12:07 PM

I wouldn't equate the two.

There's someone who was being held responsible for what was in encrypted chats.

Then there's someone who published depictions of sexual abuse and minors.

Worlds apart.

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btreecatyesterday at 12:17 PM

>but I do really like a heterogenous cultural situation

Why isn't that a major red flag exactly?

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