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loegyesterday at 6:37 PM4 repliesview on HN

Nothing in the article really substantiates the headline (currently "The First Sodium-Ion Battery EV IS a Winter Range Monster").

The EV described in the article has a standardized range of 250 miles. This isn't a range monster in any condition. There is some gesturing that Sodium batteries don't require as much active heating in cold conditions. But nothing is quantified.

As usual with sci-tech broadly and batteries specifically: it's exciting that sodium batteries are coming to market; we can be optimistic that maybe in the future they will provide lots of range, or be less expensive, or maybe less flammable than today's lithium batteries. But the marketing hype is running miles ahead of reality.


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rootusrootusyesterday at 7:14 PM

> less flammable than today's lithium batteries

If we put aside the politics, what are the actual statistics behind lithium battery fires today? And don't LFP's have negligible fire risk?

I feel like my gasser F250 had a higher risk of spontaneously combusting.

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idontwantthisyesterday at 8:19 PM

> Unlike LFP or nickel-manganese-cobalt (NMC) packs, it reportedly avoids severe winter range loss, retaining more than 90% of its range at -40 degrees C (-40 degrees F). Power delivery is also said to remain stable at temperatures as low as -50 degrees C (-58 degrees F).

That is exactly the substance of the headline.

cess11yesterday at 6:57 PM

It makes this claim:

"The Long-Range Version sets a new record for light commercial vehicles with a single-pack capacity of 253 kWh, achieving a maximum range of 800km."

That would be some 720 km at -40 C if the numbers are correct. I'm not well versed in this area and not sure if these batteries are comparable to those in personal vehicles, but the ones I've heard owners talk about have a reach at about half that if it's cold at all.

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throwaway894345yesterday at 6:43 PM

> But the marketing hype is running miles ahead of reality.

The marketing hype is the true range monster