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Google workers seek 'red lines' on military A.I., echoing Anthropic

237 pointsby mikecetoday at 3:08 AM112 commentsview on HN

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Xeronatetoday at 4:12 AM

I understand the vision, but how does this work on a global scale. e.g. American employees refuse to build this, but China's don't.

Edit: I originally ended with "What would have happened if Germany had a nuclear bomb and America didn't?", but I think it distracted from the point I was trying to make so moving this to an edit. I'm not trying to ask "is the US the bad guy". I'm trying to ask how to balance personal anti war sentiments with the realities of the world (specifically in this case keeping up in an arms race).

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mooglytoday at 3:43 AM

If we're going to have to rely on self-regulation for this, we're already doomed.

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sudonemtoday at 3:37 AM

As much as I applaud the intention, the genie has been out of the bottle on this one for many years already.

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protocolturetoday at 5:00 AM

The line should be "no" not "limited domestic use".

beanjuiceIItoday at 3:22 AM

100 google employees wow

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browningstreettoday at 4:43 AM

Given Jeff Dean’s political activity on X, I’m guessing he’s aligned to the resistance too. Not sure the rest of management is interested in caving.

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rvztoday at 3:36 AM

We already forgotten about this already? [0] Where was the open letter then?

Both companies (Google, OpenAI [0]) have defense contracts. At this point, the best course of action is to leave Google and OpenAI if you disagree with that (they won't).

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/17/openai-mi...

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ecshafertoday at 4:23 AM

This gets a giant eye roll from me. Are you really so naive that you thought working on AI for a giant tech company, creating software that is capable of finding deep patterns in massive amounts of data... and it wasn't going to used by the Defense / Intelligence industry? If you are so against the US government, and you are working for ANY big tech company you are aiding the Intelligence and Defense industry. Government uses AWS and Azure. Intelligence agencies use the data and tools of Meta / Google / Apple / etc.

OrvalWintermutetoday at 4:37 AM

Google has been evil for at least a decade, if not longer than that.

This is just pigslop masquerading as a moral stand.

What happened to the OG Google that cared about users, prioritized honest search, fast performance, and didn't murder pages with ads?

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blobberstoday at 4:24 AM

Am I the only one who remembers the prime directive of google, much easier to understand than 'organizing the worlds information' etc. etc. It was simpler.

Don't be evil.

raw_anon_1111today at 4:07 AM

Google employees must think this is pre 2024. The employer has the power and doesn’t mind laying off people who don’t tow the company line and all of the CEOs bend over and bribe the President - ie “settling” frivolous lawsuits brought by Trump himself over “censorship” when he was out of office

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SilverElfintoday at 5:35 AM

They need to unionize quickly to protect their employment and include this as part of their bargaining

miohtamatoday at 3:54 AM

"Don't do evil"

Oh, wait...

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sidibetoday at 3:42 AM

I remember they successfully got Google out of a military contract in the first admin (and briefly vilified by the right for that). that's not going to work now. Workers have a lot less power and the CEO is buddies with Trump

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dyauspitrtoday at 6:27 AM

Honestly I want tech companies is to make our military strong, just not under this guy. He’s going to turn around and use it directly on Americans.

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tokyobreakfasttoday at 6:24 AM

"Google employees make demands of US Military from nap pods, ball pit."

I assume by red lines they are referring to a life-sized tic-tac-toe game board painted in a hallway.