alt Hacker NewsAMD will bring its “Ryzen AI” processors to standard desktop PCs for first time
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Meanwhile, the corresponding "non-standard" desktop PC is the Framework Desktop, which with the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 can use 120GB of its 128GB RAM for the GPU: How to Run a One Trillion-Parameter LLM Locally: An AMD Ryzen™ AI Max+ Cluster Guide https://www.amd.com/en/developer/resources/technical-article...
Yeah, but all of this is pointless when RAM is as expensive as two CPUs by itself - if it's even in stock. AMD/Intel should focus on that first if they want to save their DIY business at all - which I'm starting to doubt they don't
In time for Windows 12 that reportedly will require an NPU: https://tech4gamers.com/windows-12-reportedly-relasing-2026-...
Hoe much dedicated cache do these NPUs have? Because it's easy enough to saturate the memory bandwidth using the CPU for compute, never mind the GPU. Adding dark silicon for some special operations isn't going to make out memory bandwidth faster.
What exactly is this:
Is this fast GPU like instructions that anyone can use in any operating system to run any open sourced LLMs on CPU with all your RAM rather than on a discrete GPU with its own limited amount of VRAM?
Or is this a proprietary thing that only works in Windows for some specific use cases and irrelevant for Linux users?
AMD marketing is hoping the “AI” branding is a positive. Antidotally, I know many consumers who are not sold on AI. This branding could actually hurt sales.
Some of these supporting ECC is of some interest. Though fast udimm ecc ram is going to be extremely expensive
Do we expect special AI processors to diverge from GPUs? Like, processors that can do parallel neural network computations but cannot draw graphics?
Interestingly, this tops off at 8 cores. Where are the 16 core versions that already exist on laptops?
These are mobile chips shoehorned into AM5. They aren't very good e.g. for gaming purposes. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-ai-400-does-not-suppor...
8 Core/16 Thread, boosting up to 5.1GHz with iGPU would be pretty neat for a Plex Server or Proxmox Server with a few VMs.
PC desktop chips have 128 bit busses to right ? From what I know theoretical maximum memory bandwidth of chips is less than 100gbps - which is less than like base M5/M4 chips.
So no matter how much compute you stuff in there it's going to be shit for AI ?
PC architecture is not adapting to AI workloads at all, and no signs of that changing in years to come. I would not be surprised if your phone was more capable of running AI models than an average desktop - especially given gpu pricing.
It doesn't sound as impressive as I wanted :-(
I wanted a better strix halo (which has 128GB unified RAM and 40cu on the 8080s (or something) iGPU).
This looks like normal Ryzen mobile chips + but with fewer cus.
I can use this in OpenWeb on Unraid? Save me buying a pascal card?
"AI" branding applied to subpar products hoping to boost sales.
The Ryzen AI line is actually great if deployed to an entire org as the bottom tier, as it garuantees every device has a 50 TOPs NPU. We deploy local software at $STARTUP and this makes deployment to a Windows corp more predictable.
So happy I got my 9800X3D + 64GB RAM this fall instead of now lmaooo
Well, for me personally it is a meh until RAM prices go down. Suddenly, decent PC has turned from a tool accessible to average Joe to a luxury item
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Looks like someone has run out of money.
> This makes them AMD’s first desktop chips to qualify for Microsoft’s Copilot+ PC label, which enables a handful of unique Windows 11 features like Recall and Click to Do.
Microsoft: "Friendship ended with Intel, now AMD is my best friend"
> This makes them AMD’s first desktop chips to qualify for Microsoft’s Copilot+ PC label, which enables a handful of unique Windows 11 features like Recall and Click to Do.
This is not the selling point they think it is.
The problem I see with the AM5 socket is simply the fact that DD5 RAM to support it is just too expensive. So this will not really make the big impact they were hopin for.