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bsderyesterday at 11:55 PM3 repliesview on HN

> They'd save themselves a fortune if they stopped releasing bad software

I doubt it. I suspect the number one tech support call is "I forgot my password" and everything else is a long way below that.

I'll slag on Microslop all day, but users are dumber than dumb.


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dsjoergtoday at 12:07 AM

Users are "dumb", and it's a dumb _system_ and dumb business that doesn't plan for that in terms of FTUE, business model, support model, and product flows.

We product makers get to think about our one little product all day, and it's our job to make our product work for the "dumb" users. It's not their job to adapt to us.

Blackthorntoday at 12:36 AM

Very easy solution to users forgetting their passwords. It's to not need a password for your software. Something that once upon a time, Microsoft did not require with their operating systems.

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zmgsabsttoday at 1:18 AM

Okay — but did they try to address that, eg, via easy to remember pass phrases? Or were they hacks pushing that complexity nonsense that XKCD called out as midwit math?

https://xkcd.com/936/

Passwords are the ultimate example of technologists turning in substandard bullshit and then blaming users for “holding it wrong”. If that’s Microsoft’s largest problem, they’ve deserved every call.