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simmerupyesterday at 8:07 PM9 repliesview on HN

And now realise the same is true for your robot vacuum, car camera, doorbell camera, etc etc

We consumers have no protection against big tech


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boomskatsyesterday at 8:35 PM

Speak for yourself, I rooted my vacuum the day I bought it

pseudocomposeryesterday at 8:33 PM

We definitely don’t have any hard boundaries baked into this tech preventing big tech from (ab)using our data this way. But are there specific companies you think are doing this? I think with Meta products, it’s been rather obvious for a long time. But I’ve had a Nest doorbell camera and thermostats for years, and first iRobot and now Roborock vacuums, and they don’t really seem so suspect.

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Semaphoryesterday at 8:33 PM

Sure you do. All of those are available in local versions without Internet.

Youjust need to care enough, be able to afford them (while my vacuum has no camera, it requires the cloud, but it was significantly cheaper than a local or hackable one), and have the ability to self host something like home assistant.

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anonym29yesterday at 9:18 PM

>We consumers have no protection against big tech

Stop buying it. You are not a robot that is forced to purchase a video doorbell or a robotic vacuum cleaner or a smart thermostat.

You have free will. If you do not like a commercially available product, don't buy it, don't use it. It's that simple.

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indubioprorubikyesterday at 9:11 PM

At least the vacuum does not try to start a civil war for add impressions..

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_carbyau_yesterday at 11:24 PM

Obligatory Valetudo reference. Replace the robovac firmware so it doesn't do cloud.

https://valetudo.cloud/

Can't help with the rest unfortunately.

chaostheoryyesterday at 10:57 PM

> We consumers have no protection against big tech

I like to call big tech, “Little Sister” since governments are “Big Brother”

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scubadudeyesterday at 10:30 PM

Don't buy the shit. You don't need a smart doorbell or robot vacuum at a minimum.

SoftTalkeryesterday at 8:18 PM

Don't use it.