I haven't looked at it recently but always felt that tools like Jira encourage poor management. Effective teams are small teams, and small teams should be communicating and working together across issues freely and frequently. It's generally harmful to have a manager assigning tasks outside of the actual day-to-day discussion without having to speak to someone directly or preferably in an open chat or thread where people can see the discussion.

And ideally the user facing chats and threads are directly linked in to the development chats or at least with channel notifications somewhere.

Task assignment tooling encourages managers to stress developers out with low priority tasks that often start off with incorrect requirements that the structure makes it hard to correct because it is then directly a disagreement with your boss and there is inherently not a discussion it. Whereas a chat at least has the concept of an informational response to a nonsensical task as being fairly standard.

We are using very different versions of JIRA.

The cloud version I used was slow and riddled with bugs. Entire views sometimes just refused to load or render, or something.

Did it "get the job done?" Yes, in a literal reading of those words, I suppose it did, but anyone who understands the amount of work that a modern 2.4 GHz CPU should be able to do per unit time would not think highly of it.

Nowadays … my company uses Linear … which, while it does have a sleeker, more modern looking UI … is nobody able to make a good bug tracker?

> Its not slow like the on-prem. Jira cloud version is fine.

Seems like opposite land to me. Back in the day running Jira Server was the only way to get a snappy Jira instance. When they discontinued Jira Server to force everyone to the cloud it was god awful slow and forced us to abandon not just Jira but our entire Atlassisn stack.

My company has an on-premise instance of the old Jira and is migrating to Jira Cloud, and the cloud version feels way slower to me.

I don't 'like' Jira, but it gets the job done. It's so easy to onboard users and assign tasks/issues across orgs. Structure is fairly simply and the filters with subscriptions is powerful. Android app that I use on my work phone just works.

Have used both and personally find project tracking thats integrated into the git forge a lot better.

Have used Gitlab+Jira in the past and now only use Gitlab and like it a lot more.