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bigstrat2003yesterday at 7:50 PM5 repliesview on HN

> This is because Carmack doesn't really do OSS, he just does code dumps and tacks on a license ("a gift").

That is, in fact, OSS. Open source does not mean, and has never meant, ongoing development nor development with the community.


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layer8yesterday at 8:06 PM

That’s just incorrect. “Open source” can mean the licensing as well as the development model [0]. It certainly has been associated with the development model since The Cathedral and the Bazaar [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software_developme...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar

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adiabatichottubyesterday at 8:43 PM

It's been a conflation issue (and major point of contention) since the 90s. "Free Software" and "Open Source Software" are two different things that have traditionally been used together to promote the rights of the user and the dissemination of knowledge in software development.

Edit, see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Source_Definition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Free_Software_Definition

skrebbelyesterday at 9:36 PM

I agree but he's arguing with people who's personal attachment to their OSS work goes a lot deeper than "I did a few code dumps back in the day".

It was stupid of me to say that he does "not really do OSS" because that opened the door for all kinds of definition arguments. That's a super tired discussion and it wasn't really my point. I can't edit anymore but I meant to say something like "doesn't do OSS in the same way as a large % of the OSS community".

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edgyquantyesterday at 8:40 PM

It’s not open source in the way anyone thinks about the term. He isn’t maintaining free software in the open