alt Hacker News"Cameras only" is a cost cutting for profit only feature that is subject to Wile E. Coyote attacks.
It is a shameful engineering design to leave out LIDAR and it has cost human lives.
Let's hope Musk does not leave out something important for the moon landing. His proposal for it is absolutely ridiculous, it looks like a children's book fantasy and many smaller top-heavy craft have already toppled on the moon!
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It's not really shameful, if you want LIDAR, just buy a new Xiaomi SU7.
What's much worse is that Tesla is hiding the reasons for the crashes in the crash reports (the only company with FSD).
NASA already let 'em off the hook for testing an elevator to get down to the surface from the ship. The best part is no part/elevator!
One giant leap?
The introduction of self-driving technology at scale will inevitably result in a few accidents no matter how many sensors are used. It's the same with every new technology deployed in high-risk situations, including motor vehicles themselves. Even malfunctioning airbags have caused fatalities. The important thing is to identify the issue early so the company can address it before more people get hurt, which the ODI in this case is thankfully doing.
The dreaded Wile E Coyote attack, the bane of every commuter's existence.
What are wile e coyote attacks? Painting a tunnel entrance on a wall?
If Tesla FSD is better than the average driver using it, isn't it still a net win, even if it might crash in different scenarios than a human? Especially because a human has a window to override FSD, but FSD doesn't really get a chance to override a human, except in limited scenarios like automatic emergency braking. And it gets more people using it by providing FSD at a lower cost?
Yes, this was something that the industry figured out in 2007. But because Musk has a lot of money, people do whatever he says, no matter how ignorant and deadly and dangerous. He never even had a cogent rationale, just absurd amounts of money. The shame is so profound and widespread it's hard to fathom really.
His moon lander will deploy a parachute that keeps the lander suspended for as long as it takes for the AI to grok the fact that there is no air on the moon, and then it finally falls according to cartoon physics with a whistling sound you can hear through the vacuum.
> It is a shameful engineering design to leave out LIDAR and it has cost human lives
I'm still waiting for a jurisdiction to either create a liability safe harbor for self-driving systems with lidar or outright ban cameras-only systems on public roads.