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WalterBrightyesterday at 8:09 PM1 replyview on HN

A pension is an earned benefit, part of one's pay package, not a free goodie. Welfare is a free goodie. It's a big difference.

Your "free" health care is paid for by you and others. It's so expensive because of that. Healthcare wasn't particularly expensive before the government got involved in it.

Modern governments do indeed treat the citizens like children.


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tovejtoday at 6:27 AM

I'm not sure you're aware, but this is a very American view of things. A very skewed one. Quite a childish one too. Bit of irony there.

There is a guaranteed pension where I live, it's part of the social contract [1]. And healthcare insurance is much more expensive than public healthcare (both for society and the individual).

[1] https://www.etk.fi/en/finnish-pension-system/pensions/nation...

Good luck living in your capitalist free market paradise. I hope your government stops treating your companies like people and your people like cattle.

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