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Emperor penguin and Antarctic fur seal now endangered

125 pointsby darth_avocadotoday at 3:55 PM30 commentsview on HN

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alsetmusictoday at 4:18 PM

It’s surprising how much this headline affects me. Who doesn’t like penguins? And seals are nice, but penguins are so likeable. We’ve really ruined everything.

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oopsirememberedtoday at 4:32 PM

Ice breaking up before the chicks can swim isn't even a threat to the penguin population I had considered, and now I am horrified and saddened.

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lifeisstillgoodtoday at 4:36 PM

It’s terrible that the side effect of humans creating a world of wealth, safety and comfort (for all?) is that we risk destroying the very comfort we create - but it is also awesome that we have sufficient wealth to allow people to study these birds full time, enough wealth to build communication systems that tell random strangers about the threat they are under and hopefully enough time to correct the problem.

I saw a speech by Carl Sagan that might be relevant - he said (sometime in 1990 judging by haircuts) that the US had spent 10 trillion dollars on defending itself from the threat of Soviet attack since 1945, but that the attack was not “certain” - not 100% sure. So if we were willing to spend trillions to prevent an uncertain catastrophe, why does the same logic not apply to climate chnage?

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wiseowisetoday at 4:40 PM

Climate change is a hoax, those leftist penguins and marxist seals just want to hamper our great economy!

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picafrosttoday at 4:54 PM

Life on this planet will be OK. Throughout geologic time countless species have gone extinct. The Anthropocene might be tragic for the natural world but not terminal.

But: what are we trading it for? Higher living standards for more people is a noble and good but I don't think there's evidence it requires this rate of ecological destruction. Have we ever seriously tried to decouple growth from extraction?

I'm not convinced a solar punk future exists where technology will eventually close that gap in time. Maybe it will. So far it seems that every efficiency gain gets swallowed by expanded consumption. What seems most probable now is that we don't get a better world but the same dirty one plus a Starbucks on Mars.

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milkytrontoday at 4:27 PM

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popol12today at 4:27 PM

Quick, book a cruise to take some picture of them before they're all dead! \s

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DarkmSparkstoday at 4:38 PM

"According to the IUCN Red List criteria, a species is generally classified as Endangered (EN) if its population of mature individuals falls below 2,500"

Also IUCN, with only 180,000 individuals the Emperor penguin is now classified as Endangered.

I think someone has been out hunting headlines.

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