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moringtoday at 9:01 AM1 replyview on HN

> The deeply unexpected thing about that, to me, is, if they hate some parts of the process, why are they keeping them?

Why are you assuming that they are given a choice? In my experience, whenever a team is trying "agile" in some way but hate it AND are given the choice, they drop it ASAP and are 100% convinced that they are better off without it. Those that hate it and don't stop doing it, are doing so because they are forced to.


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mschildtoday at 9:36 AM

> whenever a team is trying "agile" in some way but hate it AND are given the choice, they drop it ASAP

Isnt that in itself "agile"? And I specifically dont mean following a religous ceremony plan etc but recognizing that a part of their process isnt working and then changing it. To me thats the entire point of actual agile. You try a process, it doesnt work, you analyze, and adapt.