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Barbingyesterday at 6:45 PM7 repliesview on HN

Stiff competition for humans, especially drivers outside the top quartile or so. Waymo appears to its passengers to drive much more competently than certainly any sub-average rideshare driver.

Although I like jobs for humans, I hope these aren’t all just set on fire because there is promise in reducing fatalities. Want to find a way for offline vehicles that can go 65MPH to remain legal though. Without Flock every block either unless we (in USA) forget what the whole USA thing’s about.

Edit: @Waymo would LOVE to see an industry-leading privacy pledge so good the EFF slaps their logo on it (even caveated), also your engineers are amazing


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nickvecyesterday at 6:59 PM

Waymo undoubtedly drives better than your average rideshare driver - I have taken dozens of Waymos in SF and the experience is unmatched. Also no chance of being harassed by the driver, which is a big plus.

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tgsovlerkhgselyesterday at 7:13 PM

The one feature that Waymo has over other rideshare apps is that the cars presumably actually show up.

With all other apps, it feels like 50% of drivers just sit there waiting for you to cancel. I can't rule out that it's a bug with the app not showing updated locations in some cases (I've had an Uber show up even though the web app showed it three traffic lights away), but "actually gets me where I need to go in a timely manner" is a key feature and when "RIDE AVAILABLE, 3 MINUTES" turns into 7 minutes as soon as the app is done searching for a driver, and that turns into you having to cancel 5 minutes in and try again, the platform becomes useless.

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preommryesterday at 7:08 PM

> I hope these aren’t all just set on fire because there is promise in reducing fatalities.

Doesn't matter.

At this point, if the US doesn't lead, China will.

They have a massive population imbalance that they can only crawl out of with automation. Someone is going to have to drive around all those seniors. Once it's a proven model, it'll spread to the rest of the world.

pkulakyesterday at 7:01 PM

Are Waymos cheaper than hiring a person?

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georgeburdellyesterday at 6:52 PM

Rideshare drivers can speed

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CobrastanJorjiyesterday at 7:56 PM

I don't see why you should prefer jobs for humans. If a robot can do a job as well better and more cheapy than a human, it should, and that goes trebly for any sort of safety-focused job. The right fix is eliminating the need for make-work and not creating more unnecessary jobs.

That is, of course, tremendously challenging. It's impractical to look at a job performed by millions and just saying "well fix capitalism" when eliminating the jobs. But it's still the right solution. There shouldn't be gas station attendants, there shouldn't be redundant bureaucratic figuers and managers, and, when possible, there shouldn't be millions of paid car drivers.

mmoossyesterday at 7:53 PM

Ironically, Uber used the same tactics to replace taxis with rideshare:

(Taxis/rideshares) are dangerous, drivers harass you, etc. Ours are so amazing, people love them.

The reality is that I have zero problems with rideshares (or taxis, when I'm someplace that still has them). Being a social animal like other Homo sapiens, interacting is a positive but drivers have no problem giving me peace. I'd much rather have the intelligence and flexibility of a human who can communicate, adapt, and solve problems.

> your engineers are amazing

They say the same about you!

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