How fast is a macOS VM, and how small could it be?

>Starting with 4 virtual cores and 8 GB vRAM, where the VM ran perfectly briskly with around 5 GB of memory used, I stepped down to 3 cores and 6 GB, to discover that memory usage fell to 3.9 GB and everything worked well. With just 2 cores and 4 GB of memory only 3.1 GB of that was used, and the VM continued to handle those lightweight tasks normally.

Good reminder that there's a certain amount of memory tied up with each core (probably mainly page cache and concurrency handling etc).

https://github.com/trycua/cua/tree/main/libs/lume had a interesting take on this.

Got a M5 air recently - my first dive into MacOS land so trying to figure this out too.

Seems essentially impossible to get:

* pytorch

* GPU acceleration

* VM/container like isolation

The virtio-gpu layer gets closest but seems to only pass through graphics GPU not compute GPU so no pytorch

> Starting with 4 virtual cores and 8 GB vRAM, where the VM ran perfectly briskly with around 5 GB of memory used

But... if you start applications inside your VM it will want the full 8 Gb you've allocated not the 5 Gb it uses at startup?

Honestly macOS probably can go much lower than that if you turn off some stuff that's not strictly necessary for a VM. The first iPhones only had 128 MiB of RAM and they ran a trimmed down version of macOS Tiger I believe. It's just that RAM has been quite abundant so far, so there was no real reason to try to trim it down, but it's definitely possible, and probably not that hard either, we just need to start trying again :)

My only experience with VMs on macOS is colima+docker, and it's relatively painful and inefficient (but usable).

I'm wondering if the Xcode simulator (without Xcode running) performs as well, my 2020 Intel MacBook Air has been incapable of running Safari in iOS smoothly for nearly all its life.

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