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Tesla owner won $10k in court for Tesla's FSD lies. Tesla is still fighting him

127 pointsby breveyesterday at 10:45 PM30 commentsview on HN

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joshribakofftoday at 1:04 AM

I recovered ~$250,000 under beverly song act (California lemon law). (My principal and interest back for multiple vehicles)

I repeatedly complained it was activating “emergency lane departure” while driving manually, even after disabling the setting. This had the effect of the vehicles swerving towards cross walks or walls.

Clearly a software issue but they played dumb and forced me to book service visits and refused to provide loaners.

Each time they returned the vehicle(s) with a short resolution of “expected characteristic”.

I read my purchase agreement, emailed them, and simply stated they are obliged to buy back my fleet given its a hazard to public safety. They obliged without discussion.

There were also other persistent issues with the vehicle beyond the software but i suspect the software put them into a double bind where if they “fix” it they create more liability via accidental disengagements.

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wrstoday at 1:26 AM

That idea of a simultaneous small claims day is brilliant. I hope somebody is vibecoding that site up right now.

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bdcravenstoday at 1:12 AM

It's not him they're fighting, it's precedence and the impending flood of lawsuits.

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fhntoday at 1:17 AM

"court made a judgment in his favor in the amount of $10,672.88, the amount Gawiser paid for FSD, including taxes and court fees." should include interest as well

KumaBearyesterday at 11:44 PM

Earning calls are when CEO’s are telling the truth about their products. Knowing Tesla’s history of making payments he won’t see a dime. I’m no lawyer but he should set up a publicity stunt like the man who seized Bank of America’s equipment in order to get paid in full the same day. (George and Ora Lee, successfully seized assets from a Bank of America branch after the bank wrongly foreclosed on their home)

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the__alchemisttoday at 12:29 AM

The "Full" in "Full Self Driving" was one of the giveaways. It's like packaged food labeled with "Real" ("Real cheese" etc)

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nubinetworkyesterday at 11:55 PM

Be smart and take a free battery.

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asdG17lyesterday at 11:49 PM

But remember folks that Musk wants the best for humanity, is a humanist, wants to help all people and the future will be so awesome that no one will have to work and everyone will live in a penthouse.

His X says so daily, so it must be true.

charcircuittoday at 12:01 AM

From what I've seen on YouTube the cars do drive themselves. This seems more like the type of thing with AI where people change the goal posts of what AI means. Just because a car did not slow down in a school zone, that doesn't mean that the car wasn't driving itself.

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