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hirvi74today at 3:53 PM2 repliesview on HN

It is interesting because while the hotline might help some, it can also do significant damage to others depending on what happens after the phone call. Of course, nothing in life is every 100% good for everyone or every situation.

While not everyone that calls the hotline is involuntarily committed, I wonder how the data matches up with this finding [1]:

> "In this meta-analysis of 100 studies of 183 patient samples, the postdischarge suicide rate was approximately 100 times the global suicide rate during the first 3 months after discharge and patients admitted with suicidal thoughts or behaviors had rates near 200 times the global rate. Even many years after discharge, previous psychiatric inpatients have suicide rates that are approximately 30 times higher than typical global rates."

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5710249/


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wat10000today at 4:06 PM

Are they accounting for the fact that people who are admitted with suicidal thoughts will tend to be those much more prone to suicide in the first place? It seems obvious, but it doesn't sound like they are.

People who come home from the hospital after being admitted for cancer treatment will have a much higher cancer death rate than the general population, but that doesn't imply that hospital treatment is damaging.

BobaFloutisttoday at 4:10 PM

I mean, yeah. Of course. You don't get involuntarily committed if you're not at high risk. What?