alt Hacker News> Even after the modem is removed, if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota. However, if you use a wired USB connection then it does not do that (see the discussion here and elsewhere), so I exclusively use CarPlay via USB.
The problem with this is that both carplay and android auto capture their own vehicle telemetry. So even though the car is not able to use your phone as a general data pipe, Google and Apple still get access to this data when you're connected.
They are both very cagey with how they talk about this (or don't).
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You need GrapheneOS to sever the link to Google. You can also deny specify apps and services Internet access.
Standard Carplay is essentially an additional screen for your phone - your existiing privacy settings carry across. What's your concern?
I use android auto through grapheneos thankfully! this is crazy!
What about if it's just paired as an audio device rather than through an app?
> then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota
How?
>if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota
Source? Can bluetooth devices do that without the user's knowledge?
In a perfect world they wouldn't collect it either, but I'd rather Apple have it than the car manufacturer (or rather, only Apple vs both Apple and the car manufacturer)
They are cagey because they get nearly $100k upfront with crazy interest rates, and then they make a ton of money through their spyware.
And once you've gotten rid of Google and Apple, your telecom company tracks you, your CC payments help track you and even cameras in public do.
It's hard to not want to throw your hands in the air screaming "whatever" when almost everything you use in public is somehow used to track you either as you move around, or in the future.