alt Hacker News> the first two words "IN THEORY"
It doesn’t work in theory. America reversing the move and banning its own citizens from traveling to Europe would bankrupt multiple EU members [1].
> because a strong military has been so awesome for the US in the US–Iran war
Uh, the Iran war was an exercise of American sovereignty. Rules be damned.
> where IIRC the Iranians managed to destroy lots of very expensive US military radars
And they didn’t do it with soft power!
Europe has a good deal. America guarantees its security. It gives up sovereignty in exchange.
“In theory” discussions about self immolation through tourism bans and money giveaways on strategically-useless “sovereign clouds” are finger paint on turds. Messaging exercises. They afford Europe zero marginal sovereignty vis-à-vis the U.S.
Europe is not going to be sovereign unless it commits to an independent security posture. And the simple truth is that isn’t politically possible right now.
> let's not get in to politics
Exactly.
[1] https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ europe-tourism-economy-american-tourists-f6112f78
> America reversing the move and banning its own citizens ...
You sit there lecturing me on "in theory" discussions and you come up with that line.
I think you will find many European countries would celebrate yanks being told they can't visit Europe. Nobody will miss the loud Karens who make no effort in relation to the local culture.
It might have escaped your notice but the present US administration has not exactly done much to encourage Europeans to welcome yanks what with threatening to invade a European country and all that.
Get your own house in order before lecturing others.