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mmh0000today at 4:03 PM4 repliesview on HN

You may want to reevaluate.

Apple has a great PR (propaganda) department that has convinced many people they respect your privacy. In truth, they do not. They're "better" than Google, but only slightly. And only so slightly that realistically it doesn't matter.

"Apple is taking the unprecedented step of removing its highest level data security tool from customers in the UK, after the government demanded access to user data."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgj54eq4vejo

It happened in the UK; it will not be long before it happens in the US.

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Also, USA: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36084244

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Also, France, Germany, Australia, Brazil, Japan: https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/pdf/requests-2024-H...

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Also, Russia: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-04/apple-fil...

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Also, China: https://www.article19.org/resources/apple-cares-about-digita...

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Also in general: https://proton.me/blog/iphone-privacy


Replies

GeekyBeartoday at 5:31 PM

Did you just post an article where Apple refused a UK government order to weaken their encryption as "proof" that Apple doesn't respect customer privacy?

Also, the US Government has already demanded that Apple weaken device encryption.

Apple fought it in court, and the government dropped their demand rather than set a privacy precedent they wanted to avoid.

fc417fc802today at 7:48 PM

I'm confused what you think Apple should have done differently there. If the government presents you with a legal demand generally your only options are to either comply or leave the market. Would you prefer Apple to have pulled out of the UK entirely?

I'm not even much of a fan of Apple but I really don't think you can hold it against them when they loudly protest but ultimately comply with legal demands.

basiswordtoday at 8:01 PM

>> "Apple is taking the unprecedented step of removing its highest level data security tool from customers in the UK, after the government demanded access to user data."

They did exactly what they should have. Their choices were build a backdoor or disable the advanced data protection feature in the UK. They also made it incredibly public.

add-sub-mul-divtoday at 4:23 PM

It's brilliant how they've laundered their "privacy" reputation through Google etc. and people believe it so fully.