alt Hacker NewsI'm Tired of Talking to AI
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I think the root reason of the rising of AI chatbot is that many people are tired of talking to people.
Does it matter though.
So if I have a problem with my telecom provider and I want to get it solved asap, I'd the AI can do this just as effectively as a human operator isnt that OK?
Urge to paste this into ChatGPT and tell it to create a reply is so high right now.
The business owner was just being rude.
For the GitHub discussion, I don't know how you asked the question, but it would be wise to include in your question what sources you have already consulted, so that they don't also consult the same sources. This is true whether we're talking about AI or Encyclopedia Britannica or microfilm.
Asking questions well is a useful skill that is not at all new.
Keybase. Keybase was/is a trust network that was unceremoniously and unduly strangled. (You were the chosen one!)
I don't know how its style of trust systems can help us solve these major trust problems, but I feel that it's the right direction to save us from the onslaught. If I had the time, this is where I'd focus my efforts, i.e. creating a (maintained) trust overlay on existing social networks. Using slop vacates trust, share your trust signals with other people you trust.
In the video game Cyberpunk 2077, the "Net" is overrun by rouge AI and eventually humanity has to quarantine itself from them, ironically, using another AI.
I wonder if a similar fate awaits us?
I like the way how you have written this text. It’s short and clear. Not a wall of text. Very easy to read and comprehend.
I believe that being concise is a going to be a new trend. And not just concise, but unique and short, probably even with a lot of mistakes in your writings
I totally understand! Started getting AI fatigue for a few months now. I find myself constantly questioning if content I interact with is AI generated or not.
You are absolute right, would you like to talk about something else?
I think using AI to help you write or rewrite something you want to convey is fine, the difference is using it as a replacement of thinking instead of a tool.
The screenshots part is crazy.
huge +1, i also just hate reading large HTML reports that AI spits out.
I feel that if there was a startup that would tackle automating copy&paste, they could take over the world. ;)
I go back and forth on this one.
Yes, I'm with the author. I'm absolutely sick of constantly reading AI content.
But if I have to really dig into it deep, a lot of the people who send me AI content now, weren't sending me anything meaningful to begin with (pre ai).
The number of organizations I have been around where most people just copy paste each other's messages is no joke. This was happening long before AI came along. AI has just made it so much more obvious.
Previously they might have copied it from Joe in Product. Now it all sounds like Claude or GPT.
There's tons of things I like about llm's, but I'm sick of Ai show'n tells. It feels like I'm in kindergarten.
This feels to me like a transitional problem. People will learn not to do this. I hope.
That's funny. Why use the brain if tokens are cheap nowadays? (This is not AI btw)
Similar and even more relevant to HN is when I ask an engineer to fix something, complete a task, document something, etc. and it's clear the work was done with AI in the wrong way. A 60 line PR that should be 4 lines, an overly verbose and off-topic README, a function that misses important edge cases, probably because the engineer thought it too hard to explain the business logic to the AI... It's very tiresome to spend 20 minutes reading a PR only to realize it's crap because someone was sloppy with how they used their AI agent.
that's a real issue, nowadays people are so depended on Ai that they canno even think themselves and for being so called "i know everything" uses Ai to make conversation.
go to the streets, meet your friends, the internet is now an echo chamber
On the other hand, I recently had a problem with my grocery order from Sam’s Club (the onions were smashed) and had to call to get it hopefully addressed. Talked to an LLM for 30 seconds after 0 wait and it was resolved. No accent I could barely understand, no potato microphone, no being put on hold for 5 minutes in the middle while they do whatever.
Just I’m an AI, I might fuck this up, what do you need, is this about your most recent order? Yes, my onions got smashed. Ok do you want a refund? Yes. The end.
Give it a few years and the web will be AIs talking to other AIs ad infinitum
Many people retired because of AI
Log off, go outside, problem solved.
Me too, which is why I do my best to keep KPIs, and do everything else as always.
The thing is that to externalize your thought process is very dangerous because you feel you know things, but you really don't.
It's a good thing we're ruining the climate so that we can also erode job quality and social interactions.
I can only hope aerospace and medical industries are raising strict constraints against this slop otherwise I fear for the future. Eroding engineering AND communication? Thats a good formula for success
Opus 4.7 has been outright obstinate to me lately
Reply to theirs with AI screenshots until they stop. Troll with call me a retard prompts edited with inspect element.
The ChatGPT screenshot part is mind-blowing.
We're building a cage for ourselves
People say using it is lazy but you're not going to outperform it yourself. The resistance to reality by people is what's crazy. Being a developer now means being a code reviewer. That's just the way it is now.
My career was using C# and JS, and LLMs have caused me to lose interest in learning more. I was always a hobbyist Python and Ruby user. I prefer to put my efforts towards skills that are still useful. Software as a craft is dying, no different than being an expert at riding a horse.
The important part now for a developer is a very strong command of the English language, for both the LLM as well as the rising importance of client interactions. As the space is very competitive, so you need to offer value or form a union so you can regain back some of your lost negotiating power.
Most of the developers I worked with were very poor in that area. I worked hard and was deemed a "top performer" in my last job, but it was equal parts perception management. This is what you should be thinking about and focusing on going forward. Improving your linguistic skills, and polishing your social skills.
Otherwise, for someone like me who grew up in a machine shop and mechanic's environment, anything new I learn is more brawn and brain going forward so I stay relevant as a human being. And no longer just brain like software was.
I want to talk to real people as well
Try talking to grok its more entertaining.
This is all downstream of people not giving a shit about what they do.
It’s not about AI. If it wasn’t AI, it would be some other convenience.
There are a myriad of reasons why people generally give less of a shit now, that we can all opine about, but that is ultimately what has to change.
I'm tired of sorting out what github link is worth clicking, considering the deluge of vibecoded [I dont like this verb] new repos, the pride of minor accomplishments, no matter how meaningless: 'Look Mom. I made it say hello!'.
I hate to say that but maybe some kind of vetting on those pages is in order.
My barber recently had some serious health issues and has been closed for probably over a month now.
His wife posts only AI images that are not real in any way. The images are not modified, they are completely fake.
I'm exhausted of all A.I. output replacing normal human interactions.
Yeah, I have dropped out of the tech biz completely. I'm unemployed and kind of screwed now. I couldn't take it anymore. I used to work with intellectuals and thinkers. This is why I was in the industry for 20+ years. I liked the stimulation. Communication with humans is dead in the workplace. Now it's just a bunch of mindless automatons asking AI. No thinking about the problems at hand. No interest in understanding the solutions. It's all just "get it done as fast as possible." I refuse to work in that environment. Tech people are becoming about as skill-leveled as a fast food worker's level of training. Just pressing buttons on a screen as the screen tells the to press them. It's a meaningless existence to sit there an be forced to communicate with f'n AI models. No thanks. All you AI bros can have it. We'll see how useless you are in a few years when you realize you know absolutely nothing and couldn't work yourself out of a paper bag without AI guiding you.
Same.
AI is a hugely powerful tool, but I’m sick of having to treat a human’s AI-based verbatim reply as a real thing.
Anybody that does this is going to be calmly corrected as much as possible, and if the behavior doesn’t change then something will have to change.
My buddy has 10+ years directly supporting customers. He supported millions of MRR. they hired a new "MBA" boss over him. The boss' first demand was to run everything through chatgpt before talking to customers, then report to the boss. Then boss ran the reports through chatgpt before sending the reports to the customer.
BEFORE: my buddy : customer -- 1 day turnaround
AFTER: my buddy : chatGPT : MBA guy: Chat GPT: Customer -- 1 week turnaround
Efficiency!
These are not situations a human would have given you a response on in the past. it's the same irrational ai phobia. we've had automated phone agents for decades. even on reddit, automod has been a thing for a long time. it's always been the case for many tech companies that unless you get someone on HN or twitter, you're out of luck. plenty of HN posts about people who've had google business accounts disabled or locked out with no explanation or recourse.
a company with a few hundred employees, constantly laying people off, can't support a free service with actual humans. why is that not obvious? if it was a regular automated script or markov chain what would change? Nothing.
Like, there are plenty of good places to direct contempt for AI that are productive. every time i read something like this, it only makes me think how many people also like me think it's silly but won't comment for fear of going against popular sentiment. AI has plenty of good use, one of them is reading natural language input and responding to simple questions.
I too have found malware plenty on Github, they have a reporting form. that's it. you don't get a human, i can't image a human replying to every true and false report. if they get to it within days I'd call that a feat. Even if a human replied to you, they'd have to use canned responses in most of these scenarios.
It seems that a lack of respect is the real issue here. A few years ago, you would have been met with silence, which is probably equally infuriating.
I recently had someone send me a PCAP file with a network package dump suggesting that the error is on my side.
I threw it to Claude and a minute later had a "look at packet 131 and 136, it's on their side."
Yeah, it is exhausting to read verbose slop. But you're the author.
I used to be extremely verbose, and AI has helped me appreciate brevity because now I'm being exposed to it.
I would love to be without the "Top 5 Kubernetes commands" slop images LinkedIn feeds me.
Same guy also had another #1 on HN days ago. Low score account, mildly interesting content ... I wouldn't discard manipulation.
Anyway, his other "essay" was about how he doesn't take phone calls or something, so seeing this note a couple days after is just fun.
This is your peer's natural reaction to "my time matters more than yours"; you're getting it back.
Your value to them amounts to forwarding your musings from/to an LLM. This does not happen by chance. Enjoy it.
Have encountered this too - we really need new social norms around this.
Bombarding others with pages of slop that took you 10 seconds to generate (and not even read) yet take minutes to untangle for the recipient is obviously downright rude.
...unfortunately every office has a small number of people that are dumb as rocks and don't recognise this - in fact think they're helping
I'm tired of talking about AI