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shlewistoday at 8:25 AM8 repliesview on HN

I will never buy a Surface device ever again. I've been using an SL4 for the last four years with Linux on it, thanks to the surface-linux kernel.

It's awful. It feels like it's actively refusing to work properly with Linux.

Fair - it's not for Linux, and clearly that is expected with a Microsoft device.

I've recently had to call their support for missing rubber feet. I figured I could get the replacement mailed(that was how it went when it first happened about two years ago). An AI answered, did not understand what I was saying at all, hung up the call. I called again; it told me to check the website and hung up, not even giving me a chance to say anything.

Okay. Guess I'll never buy anything from you ever. Ordered them off of Aliexpress and moved on.


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frankfrank13today at 7:15 PM

Hilarious, "Designed for serviceability" is one of the headline features about 3/4 down

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-lapt...

taffydavidtoday at 8:48 AM

When will these companies realize nobody wants to talk to an AI? The reason we begrudgingly pick up the phone is because some problem is not solvable through the website. The last thing we want at that point is an automated system parroting the website back to us, or telling us to go there ourselves

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jjkaczortoday at 5:43 PM

I would be 3d-printing some janky feet in TPU before submitting myself to that process. Even if they "wear-out/fall-off", I can print some more.

buu700today at 6:11 PM

It sounds interesting from a hardware perspective, but yeah, IMO no one other than Apple has the luxury of shipping a PC with second-class Linux support anymore. If the Linux experience is anything less than perfect, it's DOA.

Also, USB-A in 2026? Really? That was already an automatic disqualifier for me at the start of the decade.

bmitctoday at 6:21 PM

Isn't that a little unfair? You'd have an even worse experience running Linux on a MacBook.

pancstatoday at 10:53 AM

Linux surface is awful, but also not actually Surface Surface. I did it, it sucked. I went back to windows and everything works primo, exempt its windows. So while I agree, I dont. PSA: wayvnc

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commandersakitoday at 4:45 PM

In recent times support is part of what I consider when I buy Apple products. It is by no means the best but I can always get a human at whatever time of day and they will listen to my problem and attempt to address it.

But as for getting rubber feet, I'm sure it's some backwards process with Apple too, if at all possible.

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jauntywundrkindtoday at 1:52 PM

I wonder how much Microsoftisms are going to be thrown into the Surface Ultra.

Surface-linux has done a ton of work to get some support, but yeah: they are quite the special devices:

> In contrast to other devices, however, some newer Surface devices route their keyboard and touchpad input via this controller. Unfortunately, every new Surface device requires some (usually small) patch to enable support for it, since devices managed by SAM are generally not auto-discoverable.

There is a huge feature matrix, so at least you sort of know what you are getting. Amazing work from open source folks! https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface/wiki/Supporte...

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